Redoing Rules

[sahearniitth]

I have said I would do this for months now and finally went through our current rules and redid them. For the most part the rules are a copy and paste of the old rules and I ommited some of what I considered extraneous techincalties. Please read and comment on them and include any rewording or issues you would like to see added. Current rule changes we have been discussing (probation and such) will be added in pending member discussion once the old rules are finalized and posted to use as a foundation for editing in the new rules.

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General Expectations for all RB members:

• RustyBuckets will be your only Dynamis Linkshell.
  
• You will not selectively attend events.
  
• You will treat other RustyBuckets members with respect.
  
• You will bring all required items to a run.
  
• You will not lot out of turn.
  
• You will have fun!
  

The Bidding System:
RustyBuckets operates on a tiered bidding system that is designed to reward dedication and commitment to the shell’s Dynamis activities.

Lot Selection

• You are allowed to declare 1 Mainlot and 2 sublot tiers, Sub70+ and Sub60+ respectivelly. A Mainlot must be 75 while sublots have to be atleast the level indicated for the tier.
  
• Lot Changes are processed for the first event of every month. You must submit your request for a lot change prior to the start of the first event of the month you wish to have your change become active.
  
• Members must maintain the same mainlot for a minimum of 4 months. Members must also maintain their mainlot for one month after obtaining any of their existing mainlot's armor.
  
• A mainlot change costs 10 points. In addfition your remaining points will be reduced to a maximum of 20 following the change.
  
• Mainlot changes are subject to approval from SH and may be rejected based on issues such as, but not limited to, member inactivity or lot congestion.
  

Points

• You are awarded 1 point per run attended.
  
• You are awarded 1 point per run that you were asked to sit out for but otherwise qualified to enter (i.e. had all required flags for the zone and were at markings on time).
  
• To qualify as having attended a run you must pay your entrance fee (if applicable) and attend at least half of the hourglass timer.
  
• No points are awarded or deducted if not attending and offline during the run.
  
• You will be deducted 1 point for not attending a run or leaving early while online for another ingame activity
  
• If you have to log/DC for an offline activity you will receive either 1 pt or 0 pts based on which of the previous guidelines best applies to you.
  

Bidding Guidelines

• The tiers for lotting are Mainlot > Sublot70 > Sublot60 > Open Lot > Free Lot. Within all the point tiers bidding priority is posted bids > non posted bids with points > non posted bids which would result in a negative point total.
  
• You must post your bid on the event sign-up thread prior to the start of the scheduled event. Post your bids as a numerical value and indicate clearly what tier you are bidding for.
  
• Proxy bids may be placed for members who are unable to access the Internet to post on the forums.
  
• You bid with points you have prior to the run. In addition the sum of your bidded points should not exceed your current point total.
  
• Bids are sequential. When bidding is closed, the winner will receive the first drop of that type. Additional drops will be dealt with in sequential order of bids. Points are only deducted when a member receives an item.
  
• Ties are allowed and will be handled by lotting between the members involved with the tied bid via FFXI's random number generation lot system.
  
• You can match the highest bid placed for your tier on an item with a /tell to a Sackholder at the beginning of an event. You are only be allowed to match bids if you have already posted a bid for said item at least once in the current bidding thread
  
• If a zone is changed due to any reason, the bidding forums will be reset to allow for new bids to be placed. The bidding forums will be held open long enough to allow on time members to place bids for the new event.
  

Minimum points for bids are as follows:

• Mainlot relic and relic-1: lv71 = 2; lv72 = 2; lv73 = 2; lv74 = 4; lv75 = 5; Belt/Cape = 5
  
• Sublot/Openlot relic and relic-1: lv71 = 1; lv72 = 1; lv73 = 1; lv74 = 3; lv75 = 3; Belt/Cape = 3
  
• Hydra gear: 5
  
• Shadow Mantle and Ring: 30. In addition you may only obtain one competitive Shadow item from Rustybuckets. Example: If you already own the Ring, you will only be able to bid for the mantle if no one else is willing to spend points, even if they do not bid.
  
• 100 pieces will be lotted by SH and sold at current market rate to fund runs.
  
• All other items including but not limited to single currencies, goblin grease, wootz ore, etc, will remain auto-lot.
  

Probation
While on Probation members may not lot any bidded items regardless of tier. They may still lot freelot items.

• New mebers are on Probation for their first run.
  
• Members who fail to attend any run over a 30 day period are put on a 4 run probation. These 4 runs must be completed without another 30day lapse between runs or the number of runs will be reset back to 4.
  
• Members who are inactive for extended periods, ie, several months, will be dealt on a case basis.
  

Additional Guidelines

Item/SJ Requirements

• All members are required to bring RR items and Poison Potions to runs. If you cast spells you are also required to bring Echo drops.
  
• For Xarcabard, Buburimu, Qufim, Valkrum and Tavnazia all melee are required to bring Opo-Opo Necklace and Sleep pots if they do not have access to Meditate. In addition all melee are required to bring an Icarus Wing for these runs.
  
• For Valkurm and Qufim RDM are required to sub DRK. For Xarcabard they may attend on another subjob and switch to DRK prior to Dynamis Lord if needed.
  

Relic Weapons and Sponsorship
Old RustyBuckets does not currently allow any member-sponsored runs for the express purpose of farming currency. There are five stages to every relic weapon. Members should reach the stages requiring an Attestation or a Fragment before asking the linkshell for help obtaining the item.


Guests
People may be allowed to enter city runs for the purpose of obtaining a flag as long as a current RB member will vouch for them or if they have an application filed. Guests will generally not be allowed to enter for Xarcabard or CoP flags. Guests will genrally be given and hourglass prior to the MB pull and are expected to drop the hourglass once they have obtained the flag. To avoid conflict we recommend guests fill their inventory so they do not get any autolotted items.

[Deathrattle]

100 pieces will be lotted by SH and sold at current market rate to fund runs.

All other items including but not limited to single currencies, goblin grease, wootz ore, etc, will remain auto-lot.


we need to lot woots ore as well... it's over 100k a pop now, that adds up to alot of gil fast

[Cleophie]

Absolutely not. We aren't in the business of lotting everything expensive that drops in the runs, and I don't want us to get in that business. Currency was justified because it was a LOT of money and they're rare, Wootz Ores are common, substantially less expensive and more of a pain to deal with.

They're unstackable and sold on the AH, so someone's mule would have to be responsible for keeping track of every Wootz we get, how much it's sold for, how much we pay in AH fees, etc... it's just not even close to worth it, 100 pieces are enough work for Sah, we don't need a bunch of nearly worthless ores to deal with too.

I think we need to be very clear that our collection of 100 pieces is as far as we'll go in that regard, and that the small autodistro items are safe from collection/sale, and I think the language in Sah's post fits that fine.

Edit: I think we need to clarify/discuss the policy on people skipping runs for other in-game activities, although I think we should probably start a new thread for the discussion, since it's rather large in scope. For this thread, I'd suggest changing the language from "deducted" to "penalized" to make it clearer that it's not acceptable behavior even if you're willing to sacrifice the 1 point.

[sahearniitth]

Will make change you suggested as far as deducted/penalized goes. I did leave off the line concnerning not attending a run at all for another ingame activity because I wanted to discuss it.

I will also add in a line eabout acceptable weapons.

Like I said this is a foundation, but we need to disccus some issues after this is finalized. One of them is what Cleo mentioned. Others include a set policy for extended MIA's (like Katson and Siow) and Probation (letting them spend pts if an item is going to freelot).

And I agree with Cleo on the Wootz ores issue. 100pcs are enough work as it is. Its not our job to make EVERY single run free. Add to that tghe accounting nightmare that dealing with unstackable or a large number of items create and its somthing I dont want us to deal with. This is also why I oppose collecting singles (the oher part being members do need a source of currency for af-1 upgrades).

[Circan]

I don't know why we need to have a written rules about using a proper weapon. a simple "hey, please use your best weapon for this, thanks!" would cover it (and will still need to be done, no doubt).

[sahearniitth]

Swapping these in place of the old rules then and going to ask members to take a look on wording as well as any omissions or additions they think are needed.

[Aceris]

Rule amendments seem good, of course we still gotta see how bad the backlash will be from the membership before we make them all "official".