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Post by sahearniitth on Oct 5, 2007 12:47:49 GMT -5
A few issues that we need to discuss for this month...
1) People leaving early in cities - This seems to be a growing problem. In Sandy we had 9 people leave before the MB which given our max numbers is a significant percentage. Besides outright telling people they are expected to stay till lthe MB at the minimum if they want their point (which isnt alot to ask 1-2 times a month which is all the late runs we have) what else can we do?
2) People arriving late cause of ingame related activities and loopholes - This problem came up this month again with 2 ppl being penalized for being late due to Oryuu and Limbus. However the loophole of people who chose to just log after remains, ie, if I have to skip due to some HNM, I can log after and claim I had RL stuff to do and that way I dont get penalized. How should we address this?
3) BLM Cap - Attendence has been bad recentlly and our BLM mainlot attendence has been no exception. There are 4 BLM mainlots who have good attendence. The others are borderline. While I have always been the biggest advocate of protecting the BLM mainlot from congestion due to their entire competion being centered around one piece if this keeps up we need to let in new BLMs to take the space. Doing Windy with 4 BLMs was nothing short of painful and having 2-3 of the BLMs leave in Sandy was no less annoying.
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Post by Aceris on Oct 6, 2007 3:25:02 GMT -5
1) I really dunno what we can do about this part. As it is most people just don't want to stay for a good 4 hours for a city run anymore unless they need shit . We can give 1/2 a point for anyone leaving early from that point on otherwise I dunno what else is there to do.
2) This "loophole" can be easily solved if they log out ONE time then its due to RL reasons and what not if they are doing it for the 2nd time or more then they are abusing loopholes and therefore subject to the heftiest penalties the LS can dish out at them. While I don't play much anymore I've always been annoyed at people abusing loopholes so we gotta amend rules for them and that causes more work and headaches for us all etc etc.
3) Well break the cap. There is no other way to solve this problem. If blms are having bad/selective attendence its time to break the cap nothing we can do about that. Unless there's more blms that show up you can't tell me that running with 4 blms is a good thing no matter what zone we doing. Blms are a prime time job in dynamis. If blms don't care enough to show up to runs or being selective of where they wanna go then there's no reason for the LS to "protect" their interest if they aren't protecting the interest of the shell. I know it might seem harsh for the blms that show up all the time but if they do show up anyway there should be no reason they would not have first priority over the piece they really want anyway.
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Post by Circan on Oct 8, 2007 15:56:09 GMT -5
1) Agreed with Aceris, our options are limited. For cities, we should feel happy that we get a good turnout at all. So, doing anything drastic will just encourage people to not attend at all. Leaving early, or not being there at all. I'd rather not have too much of the latter.
2) People know they are abusing loopholes. Their friends who don't abuse them know. And no one really cares since they like to have that option too - maybe. In the end, it's really up to you guys if you want to go ahead and try and close every single loophole that's found. At some point, a line has to be drawn, where stuff is either let go, or it just gets you kicked. With this particular problem, it looks like someone would need to stand there and cycle through the entire linkshell roster every 15 minutes to keep track of this with any real accuracy. I feel that is far too much effort, since we'd simply end up yelling at people who would look harder at getting out of runs. Either by playing an alternate or just going off-line for the first 50%.
3) Our primary goal is to complete successful dynamis runs. The caps are designed to keep our jobs balanced at an event as much as they are set to protect the mainlots from competition. It's a well knowns fact that if attendance slumps, we fill in spots as we can, especially in important areas. So, it's not like we're betraying the BLM who have been lotting up to this point, they stopped coming, they know what could happen because of it. Anyway, unless they themselves are a recent switch to the BLM mainlot category, any current mainlot should have the ability to block any new lotter on a piece or two they desire.
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