Sandy - June 24

[Tyndal]

Just some notes I wanted to share from the run. All reasons I think points need to be adjusted to something like I PM'd sah (before I had access here, I can post it here too). Also, we only had 16 in shell @ 1 after 8, didn't have more than 18 until 10-15 after 8.

Alyte - long afk (told me, but was still long)
Aminah - left @ 810 for limbus
Annika - long afk (again, said something, but long)- left @ 840 for limbus
Dkbutterflavah - logged @730, came back later
Dmann - left @ 825 for limbus
Katson @550 - long afk (no credit, was afk for most of the run and was late)
Supertim @550
Zigge - left @830

Finally, I am holding the M.Silverpieces until I know if we still need to be selling them outside shell for bank. I am @ 1.25mil left from the other currencies I have sold.

[Deathrattle]

sounds like a fun night...
i say do it, the fear is gone, and i'm all for the fear to be brought back!
Aminah : no points for the run
Annika : same
IF DKs total time was less then half the run no points
Dmann : no points for the run

leaving dynamis for another in game event is setting you (the active sacks) up for hardships later. i would nip this in the but now.

at this point i would sell the 100's to the highest buyer be it inshell or in bazar, FF will be ending soon and once it does ppl are not going to be upgrading relics.

oh and welcome to the most sacktacular job in this game, you'll love it......

[Tyndal]

I sold the 100s to Kouu for 4.65 mil (he said it was all he had, and at that it was still the best price going). That brings me up to 5.9mil that I have for the bank now.

As for the points thing, DK was only gone ~30 mins, and I did get complaints in tells about ppl leaving for limbus (my reply was I would bring it up with the SH and that I did have notes about it). I'm all for bringing punishment for these things (and I'm sure ages/morwyne are too). I'm also gonna to post what I sent to Sah about a point change right after this. See what everyone else thinks.

Finally, why is this shell so hard to run compared to the Sky/Sea group I do.....

[sahearniitth]

Sorry for being largelly MIA but I was without internet for a few days (where I was only on maybe 10min because I had to do it in a cyber cafe). I have semi-stable internet for now but still in middle of travelling. I will be done with the majority of travels on the 4th and will be back to activelly attending FFXI stuff after the 8th.

I had a bunch of DKP and calender stuff to update (which is a mess atm because 5 shells sent me schedules while I was gone and 3 of them conflict with each other alot). I will do sandy within 24hrs or so (before the sunday run).

As far as leaving for limbus goes I have always been clear that it is not acceptable UNLESS its because we started ridiculouslly late, ie, if they are leaving before 9:30pm ET on a Sunday or 11:30pm on a Wed they are risking penalty. Having said that somtimes we need to be a little flexible so they dont simply resort to staying offline till past the halfway mark for runs so they can make limbus with our reduced numbers recentlly.

With 5.9M stocked up go ahead and start selling singles to members again. I still havent had time to do a full accounting post but will try to get to it in the next day or two.

As far as the numbers issue I am not sure what to do to address it. I have seen your points proposal (skimmed over it) but with all I have going on and with the lack of stablity on internet access its not somthing I have had time to discuss the way I want. Its somthing that will just have to wait till I am back and implement by the start of August once its been discussed and modified (if needed). Really there are a multitude of reasons ranging from legit personal MIA's (I know Kieras reason for attendence drop and its not somthing she wants to discuss on these forums) to a simple lack of motivation from having acheived dynamis goals or not wanting to deal with the grind. Some we can address, some we simply cant. We are one of the oldest shells and without a large influx of NEW people (who are being swallowed by all the starter Dyna shells cause there isnt a good way to activelly recruit other than word of mouth) its going to be difficult to maintain numbers. The other option would be a full restructuring of the shell to address the goals of the limited people who regularlly attend which would probablly involve a lower frequnecy of runs and/or a reduction to pure CoP with maybe Xarc or Bcd thrown in.

Anyway I again apologize for my absence. I should be around to deal with administrative stuff for the next few days and will be back to being semi functional somtime towards the end of next week.

[Tyndal]

One thing to note on my times, is I wrote them all PST, not EST, so if any decisions are made based on that post, add 3 to all the times. Also, we did enter rather late as there were only 16 in the shell at start time, but I couldn't say exactly when we entered.